Dear Jon,
Thanks and best regards.
adam
Feb 2020
Thanks. :)
11 days
Dear Jon Fernquest,
F Y I.
{{{{{ To Elizabeth Moore,
cc : Bob Hudson.
Dear Elizabeth,
I commented on your paper on Sampanaga and now would share the evidence which supports my point.
"At the close of Sitta's dynasty two sons of one Hastetdeva
Raja, of Kusambi, arrived at Champanagara (Sabènago) and commenced to reign, after
first changing the name of the town to Sampala. After this another (nameless) dynasty
appears to have followed and to have transferred the capital to the opposite bank of the
Irrawaddy at Kaungsin, and fourthly the country came under the sway of Asoka of
Pataliputra (Dhammathawka of the Burmese), when Sampenago was again made the
capital and was reckoned one of the 84,000 towns over which he governed, and in each of
which he is related to have built a pagoda, a tank, a well, and a rest-house for travellers.
The present Shwe-kyi-na pagoda, close to the ruins of old Sampenago, is believed to be
the one built by Asoka, but there are also three others in the neighbourhood which claim
the same origin, though that at Shwekyina is undoubtedly the most ancient and the most
important. The three in question are (1) that at Hakan on the right bank of the Irrawaddy,
nearly opposite Sampenago, and known as the Mya-zedi; (2) the Kaungtaung pagoda,
called the Shwe-zi-gôn pagoda; and (3) the Shwe-zedi at Bhamo. The reason of Asoka's
choosing Sampenago for one set of his pagodas, tanks, &c., is said to be that Buddha had
lived there in a former existence in the body of a crow.
{Ref: http://www.myanmar-law-library.org/IMG/pdf/shan_state_part_ii_volume_i.pdf} }}}}
Best regards.
adam khan
F Y I.
{{{{{ To Elizabeth Moore,
cc : Bob Hudson.
Dear Elizabeth,
I commented on your paper on Sampanaga and now would share the evidence which supports my point.
"At the close of Sitta's dynasty two sons of one Hastetdeva
Raja, of Kusambi, arrived at Champanagara (Sabènago) and commenced to reign, after
first changing the name of the town to Sampala. After this another (nameless) dynasty
appears to have followed and to have transferred the capital to the opposite bank of the
Irrawaddy at Kaungsin, and fourthly the country came under the sway of Asoka of
Pataliputra (Dhammathawka of the Burmese), when Sampenago was again made the
capital and was reckoned one of the 84,000 towns over which he governed, and in each of
which he is related to have built a pagoda, a tank, a well, and a rest-house for travellers.
The present Shwe-kyi-na pagoda, close to the ruins of old Sampenago, is believed to be
the one built by Asoka, but there are also three others in the neighbourhood which claim
the same origin, though that at Shwekyina is undoubtedly the most ancient and the most
important. The three in question are (1) that at Hakan on the right bank of the Irrawaddy,
nearly opposite Sampenago, and known as the Mya-zedi; (2) the Kaungtaung pagoda,
called the Shwe-zi-gôn pagoda; and (3) the Shwe-zedi at Bhamo. The reason of Asoka's
choosing Sampenago for one set of his pagodas, tanks, &c., is said to be that Buddha had
lived there in a former existence in the body of a crow.
{Ref: http://www.myanmar-law-library.org/IMG/pdf/shan_state_part_ii_volume_i.pdf} }}}}
Best regards.
adam khan
9 days
thanks :) Jon
7 days
FYI
Burmese researcher Phone Tin Kyaw had already pointed out Luce's bias statement and Than Tun had acknowledge that Luce proposal "Bama Asda kyaukse ka" is false and fabrication.
https://www.facebook.com/%E1%80%98%E1%80%AF%E1%80%94%E1%80%B9%E1%80%B8%E1%80%90%E1%80%84%E1%80%B9%E1%80%B7%E1%80%B1%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA%E1%80%AC%E1%80%B9-750429905026564/
Burmese researcher Phone Tin Kyaw had already pointed out Luce's bias statement and Than Tun had acknowledge that Luce proposal "Bama Asda kyaukse ka" is false and fabrication.
https://www.facebook.com/%E1%80%98%E1%80%AF%E1%80%94%E1%80%B9%E1%80%B8%E1%80%90%E1%80%84%E1%80%B9%E1%80%B7%E1%80%B1%E1%80%80%E1%80%BA%E1%80%AC%E1%80%B9-750429905026564/
6 days
Dear Jon Fernquest,
You have raised an interesting point from where I can put all the pieces together.You mentioned as follow in your "Crucible of War: Burma and the Ming in the Tai Frontier Zone (1382-1454)77"
{{{The toponym ‘Mong Mao’ has been mapped to physical territory in different ways. The broadest descriptions of
Mong Mao’s sphere of influence are found in Tai chronicles and include territory all the way up to India in the
west, Tibet in the north, Sipsongpanna, Chiang Rai, and Upper Burma in the south, and Dali in the East (Daniels,
2006, 29). The names of these far-flung states conjure up images of great territorial size, but each of these names is also associated with localities that have their own independent historical chronicles in which Mong Mao hardly
occupies a central position. }}}
As far as Burma's Shan is concern we have Sampanegara or Sampanagor which is the very civilization of Bama and Siam or Cham or Shan founded by Abhira-raj of ancient India.
The Champa Negatra's are all over Mainland Southeast Asia and South Asia.
You should read contemporary history of India , Kambuja and Vietnam, particularly Champa.
Yes I must stress that Champa is spread very widely where ancient Abhira, Saka , Pathir, Munda and Talainga's migrated and founded Champa Kingdoms all over.
Thanks and best regatrds.
adam khan
You have raised an interesting point from where I can put all the pieces together.You mentioned as follow in your "Crucible of War: Burma and the Ming in the Tai Frontier Zone (1382-1454)77"
{{{The toponym ‘Mong Mao’ has been mapped to physical territory in different ways. The broadest descriptions of
Mong Mao’s sphere of influence are found in Tai chronicles and include territory all the way up to India in the
west, Tibet in the north, Sipsongpanna, Chiang Rai, and Upper Burma in the south, and Dali in the East (Daniels,
2006, 29). The names of these far-flung states conjure up images of great territorial size, but each of these names is also associated with localities that have their own independent historical chronicles in which Mong Mao hardly
occupies a central position. }}}
As far as Burma's Shan is concern we have Sampanegara or Sampanagor which is the very civilization of Bama and Siam or Cham or Shan founded by Abhira-raj of ancient India.
The Champa Negatra's are all over Mainland Southeast Asia and South Asia.
You should read contemporary history of India , Kambuja and Vietnam, particularly Champa.
Yes I must stress that Champa is spread very widely where ancient Abhira, Saka , Pathir, Munda and Talainga's migrated and founded Champa Kingdoms all over.
Thanks and best regatrds.
adam khan
6 days
again we must learn the Indian system of administration, Raja's, Maharajas, and Raja-di-Rja so that you would understand why Ava and Nyaungyan Kings need to station at lower Burma. We would not know idf Burmese Kings also resided at Pegu in modern Malaysia's Johore State.
{{{Lieberman (66, 1980) notes that the "Burmese and allied peoples did not regard the simultaneous existence of
multiple royal capitals as a logical impossibility," and that the Burmese kings Anaukhpetlun (Nyaungyan) and Thalun (Ava) though their origins and main capitals were in in Upper Burma, "dwelt at Pegu for varying periods in
order to conciliate the Mon population of the south, to renew commerce, and…supervise military operations" (Lieberman, 1980, 66). Temporary shifts of residence were also common among Tai rulers of the pre-modern period
with instances to be found in the Tai chronicles that Scott collected in his Gazetteer of Upper Burma and the Shan
States (GUBSS, Hsipaw, v. 1, 219, 218, 222).}} refers.
Thanks and best regards
adam khan
{{{Lieberman (66, 1980) notes that the "Burmese and allied peoples did not regard the simultaneous existence of
multiple royal capitals as a logical impossibility," and that the Burmese kings Anaukhpetlun (Nyaungyan) and Thalun (Ava) though their origins and main capitals were in in Upper Burma, "dwelt at Pegu for varying periods in
order to conciliate the Mon population of the south, to renew commerce, and…supervise military operations" (Lieberman, 1980, 66). Temporary shifts of residence were also common among Tai rulers of the pre-modern period
with instances to be found in the Tai chronicles that Scott collected in his Gazetteer of Upper Burma and the Shan
States (GUBSS, Hsipaw, v. 1, 219, 218, 222).}} refers.
Thanks and best regards
adam khan
6 days
Dear Jon,
Frankly and friendly we do not buy the fabrication and invention of Tai and Thai.
Syam or Siam or Shan or Sam or Sem is neitehtr Tai nor Thai.
Please stop following Dodd who is the Chief Liar.
Frankly and friendly we do not buy the fabrication and invention of Tai and Thai.
Syam or Siam or Shan or Sam or Sem is neitehtr Tai nor Thai.
Please stop following Dodd who is the Chief Liar.
5 days
5 days
Dear Jon,
We hope that you could successfully trace the origin of the people, the culture, the languages, the scripts,(the alphabetic systems) and finally the history.
Let me stress again that all the valuable things come from modern India,Pakistan, Afganistan and Central Asia to modern Yunnan, Modern Bura and entire Mainland Southeast Asia and Maritime Southeast Asia not from Han China.
The word "tusi" is corruption of Thu-Gyi in Burmese Language.
Tusi (Chinese: 土司; pinyin: tǔsī; Wade–Giles: t'u3szu1; Manchu: ᠠᡳᠮᠠᠨ ᡳ ᡥᠠᡶᠠᠨ;[1] Vietnamese: Thổ ty), often translated as "headmen" or "chieftains", were hereditary tribal leaders recognized as imperial officials by the Yuan, Ming, and Qing dynasties of China, and the Lê and Nguyễn dynasties of Vietnam. They ruled certain ethnic minorities in southwest China and the Indochinese peninsula nominally on behalf of the central government. This arrangement is known as the Tusi System or the Native Chieftain System (Chinese: 土司制度; pinyin: Tǔsī Zhìdù). It should not to be confused with the Chinese tributary system or the Jimi system.
"Tusi" is merely a village headman who even cannot see and know who was / is his real boss, the King of Burma
Even ministers were no allowed to look at the the Burmese Kings.
The custom of imagination and exaggeration is bread and butter of the authors who wrote what you all the Chinese accounts.
Thanks and best regards.
adam khan
We hope that you could successfully trace the origin of the people, the culture, the languages, the scripts,(the alphabetic systems) and finally the history.
Let me stress again that all the valuable things come from modern India,Pakistan, Afganistan and Central Asia to modern Yunnan, Modern Bura and entire Mainland Southeast Asia and Maritime Southeast Asia not from Han China.
The word "tusi" is corruption of Thu-Gyi in Burmese Language.
Tusi (Chinese: 土司; pinyin: tǔsī; Wade–Giles: t'u3szu1; Manchu: ᠠᡳᠮᠠᠨ ᡳ ᡥᠠᡶᠠᠨ;[1] Vietnamese: Thổ ty), often translated as "headmen" or "chieftains", were hereditary tribal leaders recognized as imperial officials by the Yuan, Ming, and Qing dynasties of China, and the Lê and Nguyễn dynasties of Vietnam. They ruled certain ethnic minorities in southwest China and the Indochinese peninsula nominally on behalf of the central government. This arrangement is known as the Tusi System or the Native Chieftain System (Chinese: 土司制度; pinyin: Tǔsī Zhìdù). It should not to be confused with the Chinese tributary system or the Jimi system.
"Tusi" is merely a village headman who even cannot see and know who was / is his real boss, the King of Burma
Even ministers were no allowed to look at the the Burmese Kings.
The custom of imagination and exaggeration is bread and butter of the authors who wrote what you all the Chinese accounts.
Thanks and best regards.
adam khan
5 days
Dear Jon,
Tusi is transliterated from Burmese word "Thu-Gyi" (pronounce Tha-Gyi) which means Village headman.
A year after the Ming–Mong Mao Intervention of 1398, the tusi Si Lunfa died and a new generation of elites rose to power in Mong Mao. His son Si Xingfa, together with Dao Hun and Dao Cuan, conducted short lived raids on Ming territory before military retaliation by the Yunnan guard put a stop to that.[2] The territory of Mong Mao was partitioned into five new administrative divisions each with their own tusi. Thereafter Si Xingfa paid regular annual tribute to the Ming until he was removed from office in 1413 for failing to observe proper tribute ceremonies, and offended an imperial envoy. His brother Si Renfa succeeded him.[3]
In the following 20 years from 1413 to 1433 Mong Mao, Hsenwi, and the Kingdom of Ava regularly lodged complaints of incursions by neighboring states to the Ming. However no action was taken except to send imperial envoys to persuade them to cease encroachment on foreign territories.[4]
Tusi is transliterated from Burmese word "Thu-Gyi" (pronounce Tha-Gyi) which means Village headman.
A year after the Ming–Mong Mao Intervention of 1398, the tusi Si Lunfa died and a new generation of elites rose to power in Mong Mao. His son Si Xingfa, together with Dao Hun and Dao Cuan, conducted short lived raids on Ming territory before military retaliation by the Yunnan guard put a stop to that.[2] The territory of Mong Mao was partitioned into five new administrative divisions each with their own tusi. Thereafter Si Xingfa paid regular annual tribute to the Ming until he was removed from office in 1413 for failing to observe proper tribute ceremonies, and offended an imperial envoy. His brother Si Renfa succeeded him.[3]
In the following 20 years from 1413 to 1433 Mong Mao, Hsenwi, and the Kingdom of Ava regularly lodged complaints of incursions by neighboring states to the Ming. However no action was taken except to send imperial envoys to persuade them to cease encroachment on foreign territories.[4]
5 days
Dear Jon Fernquest,
I notice that most of the western scholars and Chinese ( both KMT and PRC) condemn us (Burman ) and Burmese Kings.
{{{ These scholars lift the Chinese history like Sakawpyan of Burman Pyu History.“A great whirlwind arose at that time and carried away a
winnowing-tray, and the woman whose tray it was ran after it crying ‘Nga Sagaw! Nga Sagaw!
(My winnowing-tray! My winnowing-tray)’. Thereupon the whole country was alarmed and said,
‘the Nga Sagaw war has come!’, and the people split into three divisions.” It has been suggested
that the ominous words “Nga Sagaw” may refer to an incursion by a tribe called Cakraw, or
Sagaw- possibly the Sgaw Karen. This chronicle also appears in two shorter versions, the 10
volume Yazawin Lat, and the single volume Yazawin Choke (Pe Maung Tin & Luce 1923: xiv, xv;
Tet Htoot 1961; Hla Pe 1985: 37-39; Luce 1985: 51). Bob Hudsonm(2004)}}}
We do not buy BS (bull shit) and CS (cow shit),
BS stands for British led scholars' bluffing and CS stands for Chinese account bluffing.
We know our history better than any outsiders.
So we must reciprocate .
Thanks and best regards.
adam khan
I notice that most of the western scholars and Chinese ( both KMT and PRC) condemn us (Burman ) and Burmese Kings.
{{{ These scholars lift the Chinese history like Sakawpyan of Burman Pyu History.“A great whirlwind arose at that time and carried away a
winnowing-tray, and the woman whose tray it was ran after it crying ‘Nga Sagaw! Nga Sagaw!
(My winnowing-tray! My winnowing-tray)’. Thereupon the whole country was alarmed and said,
‘the Nga Sagaw war has come!’, and the people split into three divisions.” It has been suggested
that the ominous words “Nga Sagaw” may refer to an incursion by a tribe called Cakraw, or
Sagaw- possibly the Sgaw Karen. This chronicle also appears in two shorter versions, the 10
volume Yazawin Lat, and the single volume Yazawin Choke (Pe Maung Tin & Luce 1923: xiv, xv;
Tet Htoot 1961; Hla Pe 1985: 37-39; Luce 1985: 51). Bob Hudsonm(2004)}}}
We do not buy BS (bull shit) and CS (cow shit),
BS stands for British led scholars' bluffing and CS stands for Chinese account bluffing.
We know our history better than any outsiders.
So we must reciprocate .
Thanks and best regards.
adam khan
5 days
To All,
Honestly speaking, Whoever promote Tai and Thai and advocating that modern Bama came from modern China considered liar,
Honestly speaking, Whoever promote Tai and Thai and advocating that modern Bama came from modern China considered liar,
5 days
Dear Jon,
I trust that 5 European imperialist/colonialists killed many local tribal people in Southeast Asia, South Asia and Central Asia.
How many thousands of innocent peoples The French Invaders killed in Vietnam and Kambuja ( Cambodia).
The following is some extract from a French author.
{{{{ Emergence of a Leading Group:
A Case Study of the Inter-Ethnic Relationships in the Southern Shan State
Francois Robinne
MIEN, MRAMMA, BRAMMA, BURMA
The seven administrative Divisions of the so-called Union of Myanmar are situated along the Irrawaddy River, in the delta and along the Mergui archipelago. They are mostly occupied by the Buman as ethnic group, even if Mon and Karen minorities are also representative.}}}}
It is rude and outright interference and instigation in Burma's internal affairs.
If he does not know should not write at all. Karens are not minority. Their population is considerably large and they live all over the country, from Myitkyia, Kachin State to at the bottom tip, the cape of Emperor Barintnaung in Tanithari Division. They also live in Mandalay and Pagu Divisions in great number.
Therefore I would sincerely request all of you not to interfere in Bufrma's internal and ethnic affairs. If you love White and Red Chinese, just write their history. Stop writing our history, because you make more harm than good for the peoples and the country.
Thanks and best regards.
Adam khan (a) Raja Saraka
I trust that 5 European imperialist/colonialists killed many local tribal people in Southeast Asia, South Asia and Central Asia.
How many thousands of innocent peoples The French Invaders killed in Vietnam and Kambuja ( Cambodia).
The following is some extract from a French author.
{{{{ Emergence of a Leading Group:
A Case Study of the Inter-Ethnic Relationships in the Southern Shan State
Francois Robinne
MIEN, MRAMMA, BRAMMA, BURMA
The seven administrative Divisions of the so-called Union of Myanmar are situated along the Irrawaddy River, in the delta and along the Mergui archipelago. They are mostly occupied by the Buman as ethnic group, even if Mon and Karen minorities are also representative.}}}}
It is rude and outright interference and instigation in Burma's internal affairs.
If he does not know should not write at all. Karens are not minority. Their population is considerably large and they live all over the country, from Myitkyia, Kachin State to at the bottom tip, the cape of Emperor Barintnaung in Tanithari Division. They also live in Mandalay and Pagu Divisions in great number.
Therefore I would sincerely request all of you not to interfere in Bufrma's internal and ethnic affairs. If you love White and Red Chinese, just write their history. Stop writing our history, because you make more harm than good for the peoples and the country.
Thanks and best regards.
Adam khan (a) Raja Saraka
4 days
Dear Jon,
For your reference.
{{{{{ There were ports and harbours
all along the coast-line, such as Tamralipti,
Kaviri-pattanam, Bharukaccha and Surparaka; and it
was practicable to attain to any of them starting
from up the Ganges, not only from Campa (Bhagalpur)
but even from Benares. The Samudda-vanija Jataka (iv.
159) relates how a settlement of wood-workers,
failing to carry out the orders for which pre-payment
had been made, made a 'mighty ship' secretly, and
emigrated with their families, shipping down the
Ganges, by night, and so out to the sea, till they
reached a fertile island. The Mahajanaka Jataka (vi,
34) tells us that prince Mahajanaka set out for
Suvannabhumi from Campa. }}}}
Campa means Champa and also Siam and also SDampaneghara in Burma and Annam in Vietnam and Champa in Vietnam and Assam in Northeastern India.
Yalung river is also called Sampa or Tsampo or Brahmaputra River.
http://enlight.lib.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-ENG/cha.htm
You know very well that Tibet is not Han Chinese territory.
Thanks and best regards.
Adam Khan
For your reference.
{{{{{ There were ports and harbours
all along the coast-line, such as Tamralipti,
Kaviri-pattanam, Bharukaccha and Surparaka; and it
was practicable to attain to any of them starting
from up the Ganges, not only from Campa (Bhagalpur)
but even from Benares. The Samudda-vanija Jataka (iv.
159) relates how a settlement of wood-workers,
failing to carry out the orders for which pre-payment
had been made, made a 'mighty ship' secretly, and
emigrated with their families, shipping down the
Ganges, by night, and so out to the sea, till they
reached a fertile island. The Mahajanaka Jataka (vi,
34) tells us that prince Mahajanaka set out for
Suvannabhumi from Campa. }}}}
Campa means Champa and also Siam and also SDampaneghara in Burma and Annam in Vietnam and Champa in Vietnam and Assam in Northeastern India.
Yalung river is also called Sampa or Tsampo or Brahmaputra River.
http://enlight.lib.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-ENG/cha.htm
You know very well that Tibet is not Han Chinese territory.
Thanks and best regards.
Adam Khan
2 days
Dear Bob Hudson,
I reject your statement below as nonsense and absolutely wrong.(2004, p
{{{{ It is suggested that
the Indic chiefdoms declined in influence due to elements that to some extent were of their own
making, including siltation of agricultural areas, the adoption of a popular Buddhism which began
to eclipse the Hindu cults that had supported the authority of the leadership, and a relationship with
the expansionist state of Nanchao that was not entirely passive. Revision of the dating of the Pyu
centres will suggest that they did not simply crash in the early 9th century due to invasion, and it is
proposed that the “mystifying” gap that has been believed to exist between the “fall” of the Pyu
and the “rise” of Bagan is, like the very notions of “fall” and “rise”, a historiographical
construction. }}}}
Please stop.
G H Luce and Pe Maung Tin and any history scholars have no authority but I do have.Myh abncestors can be traced back to Ava era before Min Gyi Swa ( Sawke Tara Phara or Sawke Taraphya) the father of First Min Khaung )
I am descandant Min Raja of Wun Zin and will protect our history not to be looted and/or corrupted.
Trust that this message makes our position very clear .
Thank, you.
Best regards.
Adam Khan
I reject your statement below as nonsense and absolutely wrong.(2004, p
{{{{ It is suggested that
the Indic chiefdoms declined in influence due to elements that to some extent were of their own
making, including siltation of agricultural areas, the adoption of a popular Buddhism which began
to eclipse the Hindu cults that had supported the authority of the leadership, and a relationship with
the expansionist state of Nanchao that was not entirely passive. Revision of the dating of the Pyu
centres will suggest that they did not simply crash in the early 9th century due to invasion, and it is
proposed that the “mystifying” gap that has been believed to exist between the “fall” of the Pyu
and the “rise” of Bagan is, like the very notions of “fall” and “rise”, a historiographical
construction. }}}}
Please stop.
G H Luce and Pe Maung Tin and any history scholars have no authority but I do have.Myh abncestors can be traced back to Ava era before Min Gyi Swa ( Sawke Tara Phara or Sawke Taraphya) the father of First Min Khaung )
I am descandant Min Raja of Wun Zin and will protect our history not to be looted and/or corrupted.
Trust that this message makes our position very clear .
Thank, you.
Best regards.
Adam Khan
1 day
Dear Bob Hudson,
You call India Chiefdom?
Are you sure thatg you really did /do not know Thek means Sakyan?
Most of the Burmese people especially Kachin, Chin, Bama, Sham or Siam and Rakhine shall the same clan namely Saka or Sakyan with Lord Gaotam Buddha.
{{{{ The story goes that the kings of Burma were descended from a migrating Indian chiefdom, the
“noble Sun dynasty of the Sakiyans”, the same line of descent as Buddha. They arrived to settle
at Tagaung around 850 BC, several centuries before the time of Buddha. Tagaung is a multiple walled site on the Ayeyarwady above Mandalay with an extensive archaeological record (page
144). The sons of the first king quarreled. One migrated west across the Arakan Yoma in 825
BC, founding the city of Dhanyawadi. After 33 kings had reigned, the Tagaung kingdom
collapsed due to incursions by the kingdom of Gandhara, in what is now Yunnan. Followers of
the last king, Binnaka, split into three divisions. One group founded “the nineteen Shan States
of the East”. The modern village of Binnaka, possibly named for this king (Win Maung 2001b),
sits in the shadow of the Shan hills at the southern end of the Samon Valley (Chart 1). The area
surrounding Binnaka has a continuous archaeological record going back to the late prehistoric
period, as will be shown in Chapter 4. Others from Tagaung migrated down the Ayeyarwady
and joined relatives who had moved there at the time of the migration to Arakan to rule three
local tribal groups, the Pyus, the Kanyans and the Theks. }}}}
I am surprised you dare to write above statement.
Ayeyarwady, refer Harvey, the River's name is Iravati.
Thanks and best regards.
Adam Khan
You call India Chiefdom?
Are you sure thatg you really did /do not know Thek means Sakyan?
Most of the Burmese people especially Kachin, Chin, Bama, Sham or Siam and Rakhine shall the same clan namely Saka or Sakyan with Lord Gaotam Buddha.
{{{{ The story goes that the kings of Burma were descended from a migrating Indian chiefdom, the
“noble Sun dynasty of the Sakiyans”, the same line of descent as Buddha. They arrived to settle
at Tagaung around 850 BC, several centuries before the time of Buddha. Tagaung is a multiple walled site on the Ayeyarwady above Mandalay with an extensive archaeological record (page
144). The sons of the first king quarreled. One migrated west across the Arakan Yoma in 825
BC, founding the city of Dhanyawadi. After 33 kings had reigned, the Tagaung kingdom
collapsed due to incursions by the kingdom of Gandhara, in what is now Yunnan. Followers of
the last king, Binnaka, split into three divisions. One group founded “the nineteen Shan States
of the East”. The modern village of Binnaka, possibly named for this king (Win Maung 2001b),
sits in the shadow of the Shan hills at the southern end of the Samon Valley (Chart 1). The area
surrounding Binnaka has a continuous archaeological record going back to the late prehistoric
period, as will be shown in Chapter 4. Others from Tagaung migrated down the Ayeyarwady
and joined relatives who had moved there at the time of the migration to Arakan to rule three
local tribal groups, the Pyus, the Kanyans and the Theks. }}}}
I am surprised you dare to write above statement.
Ayeyarwady, refer Harvey, the River's name is Iravati.
Thanks and best regards.
Adam Khan
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